tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7651597981151570147.post8928836054177621890..comments2024-03-15T07:44:55.087+00:00Comments on The Cycling Lawyer: Dangerous or Careless - An UpdateMartin Porterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07802050121734667593noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7651597981151570147.post-82018941221345740092014-08-04T10:19:32.783+01:002014-08-04T10:19:32.783+01:00I am a daily London cycle commuter and occasionall...I am a daily London cycle commuter and occasionally have close overtakes happen upon me. I see these manoeuvres like attempted murder and would love to be able to support anything that can help change the law to prevent this from happening. It's a real shame that until a cyclist is killed, there is very little done and even then the driver only seems to be given a slap on their wrist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7651597981151570147.post-59523866509416319342013-10-28T11:21:37.884+00:002013-10-28T11:21:37.884+00:00oh my god really dangerous experienceoh my god really dangerous experienceAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17172267064765050283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7651597981151570147.post-17574091163164488432013-04-28T15:45:37.060+01:002013-04-28T15:45:37.060+01:00Not 'bad news' at all. I wish every lorry...Not 'bad news' at all. I wish every lorry driver were a cyclist, it would solve a lot. I cannot imagine that any cyclist would have attempted the overtake that Mr Stead did.Martin Porterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07802050121734667593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7651597981151570147.post-84348077261110828582013-04-27T00:10:21.419+01:002013-04-27T00:10:21.419+01:00Nice blog & thank you for fighting the cyclist...Nice blog & thank you for fighting the cyclists corner. I am a cyclist of 30+ years & asides from heavy shopping trips with my wife, cycle everywhere.<br /><br />Now for the "bad" news, depending of course on which way it's viewed! I'm a lorry driver & on many a single carriageway, will not overtake a cyclist if traffic is heavy. Just because of several selfish drivers, do not tar us all with the same brush. <br /><br />Have seen many irresponsible & stupid incidents by car owners & unfortunately, some very crazy stunts by cyclists, especially in London.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7651597981151570147.post-74021888817882673062013-04-23T07:04:04.754+01:002013-04-23T07:04:04.754+01:00You should get a medal for all you do to fight the...You should get a medal for all you do to fight the cyclist's cornerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7651597981151570147.post-16149983352942154092013-04-22T14:13:04.975+01:002013-04-22T14:13:04.975+01:00Let's be honest, Martin. The CPS got Stead to ...Let's be honest, Martin. The CPS got Stead to plead guilty to the lesser charge purely to save the cost of a trial. Everyone's a winner - the CPS secure a conviction, Stead gets a lighter sentence and the Exchequer saves money. It's all about money not morality.Bill Reaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7651597981151570147.post-11653612603709136872013-04-20T04:43:53.693+01:002013-04-20T04:43:53.693+01:00From what I've read of the Dutch system it wor...From what I've read of the Dutch system it works in large part because they have designed it to eliminate opportunities for conflict rather than because Dutch drivers are particularly angelic.<br /><br />MichaelMichaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14160307126030657594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7651597981151570147.post-28048546989982413202013-04-19T08:55:28.294+01:002013-04-19T08:55:28.294+01:00If a worker operated machinery in a factory in a m...If a worker operated machinery in a factory in a manner that was negligent and endangered or injured or killed others the Health and Safety Executive (HSE)would investigate and prosecutions of the individual and the company, and in some instances the managers would be sure to follow. Why is it then that workers who drive machinery on the highway in a manner that endangers injures or kills others is not investigated by the HSE? Companies have regard (fear) for the sanctions that the HSE can impose. It would go a long way in improving the standards of so called professional drivers.cbrndcnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7651597981151570147.post-31567515725598240022013-04-18T18:20:47.581+01:002013-04-18T18:20:47.581+01:00Regrettably as a (albeit voluntary) police officer...Regrettably as a (albeit voluntary) police officer my comment must remain anonymous, suffice to say the very best of luck to you and keep fighting the good fight on behalf of cyclists, we need leaders like yourself.<br /><br />One quibble with something you assert though. "The police...are as surprised as I am at the outcome of the case." I would say this is inaccurate. They might be too polite to say it, but I don't think many police officers would be surprised by ANY level of ineptitude or spinelessless from the CPS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7651597981151570147.post-40262397612504551432013-04-17T19:48:39.180+01:002013-04-17T19:48:39.180+01:00Yes to all the other people who are really appreci...Yes to all the other people who are really appreciative of your determination, Martin. Keep up the good work!!!k8https://www.blogger.com/profile/11787964945830286262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7651597981151570147.post-39690959327167625392013-04-17T08:19:42.145+01:002013-04-17T08:19:42.145+01:00Martin, thank you for your efforts. I appreciate t...Martin, thank you for your efforts. I appreciate them a great deal.<br /><br />Regards<br /><br />GeoffAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7651597981151570147.post-86117761152220478412013-04-16T21:12:12.166+01:002013-04-16T21:12:12.166+01:00Thank you, again, Martin for continuing to push fo...Thank you, again, Martin for continuing to push for sensible action from our legal system when people's lives are put in danger by others taking excessive risks.<br /><br />As a society we are very quick to punish people who verbally threaten someone else, who carry knifes, or who are careless with guns. But we have an unexplained blind spot when the threat comes from motor vehicles. We have become too accustomed to the daily carnage on our nation's roads.Fonanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02138087859465124942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7651597981151570147.post-53042388457663267222013-04-16T10:19:19.709+01:002013-04-16T10:19:19.709+01:00Thank you Martin for your dogged pursuit of this m...Thank you Martin for your dogged pursuit of this matter.<br /><br />It is a wonder to me how professional drivers can get away with multiple convictions for bad/dangerous driving. In my job as copy-editor I am expected to have (much) better than average spelling and grammar skills. Should those skills drop below that level, I am out of a job, and without killing or endangering anyone. Nicohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05451083510383812797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7651597981151570147.post-5183658218486176362013-04-15T12:16:32.524+01:002013-04-15T12:16:32.524+01:00I rather suspect that if there were a mandatory re...I rather suspect that if there were a mandatory requirement for all CPS staff to cycle to work every day, their interpretation of 'careless' and 'dangerous' would change.amoebahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15783694650121687459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7651597981151570147.post-19317164732149893652013-04-15T10:20:37.866+01:002013-04-15T10:20:37.866+01:00Thanks for taking the time and effort to highlight...Thanks for taking the time and effort to highlight the plight of the vulnerable road user. Hopefully you realise how appreciative your followers/readers/fellow commuters are!qwerkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12655615281242369652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7651597981151570147.post-85630579588595521822013-04-15T09:53:48.502+01:002013-04-15T09:53:48.502+01:00The fundamental issue is the very low standard tha...The fundamental issue is the very low standard that a reasonable driver seems expected to achieve in law in the view of the CPS.<br /><br />I've been doing the IAM Advanced Driver course. It has not been arduous or difficult to modify my driving technique to get to a level that is apparently adequate to meet their standard. Essentially, the main safety requirement is to be excellent in observation and planning, but this is not difficult to do. There are other factors about car control, but in the normal day to day context of driving, well within the limits of a modern car, we need not concern ourselves with. In other words, the Advanced Driving course is a misnomer - it is the standard of driving that any reasonable driver should expect to achieve.<br /><br />It seems that the CPS believe that the standard required is that of a barely competent driver - that mistakes and misjudgements are a normal and reasonable part of driving.<br /><br />It seems to me that the obvious thing to do is that the level of driving standard to be aimed at is that described within the Advanced Driving course or Roadcraft should be the standard against which all driving is judged.<br /><br />Simple example: you should not drive around a corner faster than the distance you can see allows you to stop. In terms of overtaking it says "Never make risky overtakes, if in doubt, stay back." "Is there sufficient clear road to carry out the manoeuvre safely?"<br /><br />I think the road using community should be asking why the CPS have such a low expectation of driver ability when achieving a better standard is not unduly onerous. It creates the impression that the CPS are poor drivers themselves and are using their personal views (potentially with a bias against cyclists if I were cynical), and would suggest that they seek expert advice on the matter from the appropriate people, be they the police or other qualified instructors. Perhaps as an addendum to your complaint you could suggest that they seek that expert opinion.Ian Spencerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14174335555236627724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7651597981151570147.post-91864967187465585002013-04-14T14:08:40.690+01:002013-04-14T14:08:40.690+01:00Top marks for top effort.
Having has a 'near ...Top marks for top effort.<br /><br />Having has a 'near death experience' with a truck doing much the same I am with you on this one. Alun Pughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12122102399344482399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7651597981151570147.post-25654423321626030332013-04-14T00:02:15.056+01:002013-04-14T00:02:15.056+01:00Martin,
One of the reasons we are in such dire st...Martin,<br /><br />One of the reasons we are in such dire straits is because too often we let them trample over decency.<br /><br />Your persistence is example for us all: it is often tempting to give up, but it is a moral imperative to persevere until this violence is rooted out of our society.Andreahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15898014560359608505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7651597981151570147.post-55108755771845776112013-04-13T07:54:47.087+01:002013-04-13T07:54:47.087+01:00With your Daily exposure to traffic conditions as ...With your Daily exposure to traffic conditions as you commute and your Legal Knowledge , there is little doubt with the majority of Cyclists , that yours is the voice of reason !<br /><br />For those that sit in an office reading your submissions , you pose a threat to the status quo and their " Comfort Zone "! That you have suffered injury , due to others" incompetence" on the roads , is not visible to them . We , your readers do not count , we are an interruption to their day , rather than their "Reason Etre " . <br /><br />Even riding the quieter roads in Europe , i see and hear the " ire " of impatient motorists . It amazes me , to see Dutch Number Plates , frequently making more difficulty , even though they are supposedly on " holiday ". They have cycle paths at home , the envy of most other countries , yet no tolerance for cyclists .<br /><br />Would there be any way that the " DPP " can be alerted to the fact that they are dealing with an " Intelligent , Considered Submission " rather than an ordinary member of the Public , with an " axe to grind "? skippyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10045948860442711266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7651597981151570147.post-43389515985596540902013-04-12T21:23:27.602+01:002013-04-12T21:23:27.602+01:00As usual, keep up the good work Martin,
Dr. Robert...As usual, keep up the good work Martin,<br />Dr. Robert Davis, Chair, Road Danger Reduction ForumAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7651597981151570147.post-26146659516056733712013-04-12T19:39:22.632+01:002013-04-12T19:39:22.632+01:00And if these *deliberate* manoeuvres go wrong, the...And if these *deliberate* manoeuvres go wrong, then the driver claims total innocence. Good character, clean driving license, family man, terrible mistake blah blah blah.... <br /><br />And same thing. Road user dead, drivers not disincentivized on BIT from performing reckless manoeuvres.<br /><br />There's NO incentive to drive well in the UK. Nigehttps://twitter.com/ExtAnimalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7651597981151570147.post-10225314746960313622013-04-12T19:33:53.990+01:002013-04-12T19:33:53.990+01:00The law needs changing to make these BUFFOONS take...The law needs changing to make these BUFFOONS take the issue seriously.<br /><br />The Europeans seem to do better. What does European law say about this, and could we as cyclists use it?Nigehttps://twitter.com/ExtAnimalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7651597981151570147.post-87121791987632280232013-04-12T19:20:26.860+01:002013-04-12T19:20:26.860+01:00You continue, Martin, to do cyclists in general a ...You continue, Martin, to do cyclists in general a great service with your committment to tackling the police on these issues.<br /><br />If you are ever tempted to move to New York, where I moved last August, and to turn your attention to the even more negligent NYPD and New York prosecutors' attitude to cyclists, I am sure we would be lining up outside immigration at JFK to greet you.<br /><br />Invisible.Invisible Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15942359504874275065noreply@blogger.com